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Post by Crouton on Sept 1, 2014 19:45:58 GMT -6
Online gaming harassment has gotten to such a bad stage, and despite what some people say it seems to actually be getting worse every day. So it's nice to see game creators and developers from huge companies trying to make their voice heard about it. www.kotaku.com.au/2014/09/over-600-game-creators-call-for-an-end-to-hateful-harassing-speech/People from EA, Ubisoft, Bungie, Sony and many others are trying to make a call-out to end harassment. It's a nice idea, which probably won't change anything for the low-lifes out there who do actually partake in this level of online abuse, but it's nice to see such big names calling these types of people out.
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Post by Firiath on Sept 2, 2014 5:38:25 GMT -6
I agree. Although I don't have much hope when it comes to low-lifes reflecting and changing their way to treat fellow human beings it's good to see there are still some decent human beings out there, as it seems.
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Post by sjfaerlind on Sept 2, 2014 9:08:18 GMT -6
Don't they ban habitual offenders from playing on the servers or anything?
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Post by Crouton on Sept 2, 2014 17:33:24 GMT -6
It seems very rarely. There is a system where you can report players but hardly anything seems to come from it. It's a very flawed system. These people can often just make other accounts anyway.
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Post by TAZ on Sept 2, 2014 23:42:06 GMT -6
the issue with "banning" repeat offenders is that they are subscribing customers. if it gets to the point that harassment is driving customers away then yes, they will, but if it's just complaints then they don't do jack.
companies such as xbox and sony (i put xbox as a separate company since it operates independently) are more likely to ban people over breach of copyright or complaining about a game, or talking badly about another player,on Youtube than they are in their own online communities.
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Post by sjfaerlind on Sept 3, 2014 20:28:07 GMT -6
This kind of stuff won't stop unless there are consequences though.
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Post by TAZ on Sept 3, 2014 21:40:44 GMT -6
there are consequences. use your ignore settings, never be paired with arseholes. the problem (in my view) with bullying is that the bullied allow themselves to be bullied. if everyone who was ever bullied by PLAYER1 blocked that person, they'd never get matches. this type of self policing is how the online community is supposed to run. on top of that, if an account receives a certain number of ignore votes, said account becomes evaluated by host, the problem is there is an "air of superiority" concerning these so called "elite" players, newbies and average players hold them in awe and refuse to take action, while ever this sub culture is allowed to thrive those elite players will continue to treat newbs as noobs and will (again, in my opinion) destroy the online community they rely on.
band together and you yourselves can eradicate these nuisance players. i never get harassed or bullied, because anytime i have a bad encounter i add the person to my ignore list, and i never have to wait for matches. it's not rocket science
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Post by Crouton on Sept 4, 2014 18:37:34 GMT -6
It's not just about in-game, and it isn't as easy as you are making it out TAZ, we are talking in-game, forums, twitter, facebook, youtube, etc etc. I've been harassed for being a female gamer on forums before where I was sent repeated messages and posts aimed at me and could only report them but then the mods did nothing about them. Also even in the cases when you can ignore/block users it still sometimes isn't enough. Like youtube for example or facebook/twitter, you can get harassing messages from hundreds, even in some cases thousands of different people which can really get to a person, even if they do go through the process of trying to block and ignore it all. Then some serial offenders can track down your e-mail, other social networks, make multiple accounts etc and keep attacking you. I can see what your trying to say about ignoring people, and I think people should block/ignore a lot too but it isn't that simple.
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Post by TAZ on Sept 5, 2014 2:28:58 GMT -6
i've never encountered it at that level, but i can understand
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Post by raoh on Sept 5, 2014 6:51:21 GMT -6
Yeah this "gamergate" thing that is being pulled is sign enough. The thing about banning them is that they will only go to find new and louder echo chambers for their bile. Then you have people stomping around with the banner of meritocracy while enforcing prejudice and hate.
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Post by Crouton on Sept 5, 2014 18:33:52 GMT -6
We also live in a day and age where hackers can track down your e-mail, phone numbers and even personal home address. And this has happened several time as attacks in the gaming world which is truly scary.
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Post by TAZ on Sept 6, 2014 2:47:20 GMT -6
i don't get why people bother, maybe its cause i'm from a different age, i always congragulate anyone who defeats me, and offer a gg (good game) regardless of outcome.
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Post by sjfaerlind on Sept 6, 2014 5:30:33 GMT -6
This discussion makes me glad that I'm not a gamer! The thought that people actually stalk other people online and threaten to do bad stuff to them is awful. Sheesh! I won't even let anyone know my real name or see a photo of me unless I've known them awhile and am convinced they're not some kind of psycho. I know hackers can probably find out just about anything they want to, but why make it easier for them?
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Post by TAZ on Sept 6, 2014 21:34:30 GMT -6
i've certainly had online stalkers... and yes they were gamer related, and they were female. i've had to block email addresses and report to federal police. i have never encountered threats of violence from a gaming community though
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Post by Crouton on Sept 7, 2014 22:28:54 GMT -6
I don't play online games, or when I do I play with personal friends only, not online people, so I don't get online in-game abuse. I have gotten a lot of abuse over the years on sites like forums and chat sites for seemingly no other reason than being a female who plays games.
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