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Post by raoh on Jun 13, 2014 10:49:39 GMT -6
People change over time. The kid could just have some attention or temper issues. Damning 12 year olds for inherent characteristics can't be the solution to this.
Kids are impressionable, that is how this all came about. Telling a kid they are a monstrous murderer is just going to become self-fulfilling.
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Post by SellennaeAlara on Jun 13, 2014 14:01:16 GMT -6
to a degree I agree with you raoh; but my brother had a shit done of positive reinforcement; up building and it did not stop him from abusing me most of my life or from turning out to be a borderline anti social jerk.
There are some things that cannot be fixed unless someone wants them fixed.
If a 12 year old is capable of stabbing someone who is NOT attacking them more then once; let alone 19 times and does not flinch.
That is more of a temperature issue.
They lack Empathy, Caring, Sensitivity.
If you lake those basic characteristics as a kid who has not lived long enough to be jaded by the world. A kid who is raised in a good home; with active parents.
There are some serious questions as to the mental state of that child.
Kindness and empathy are the traits most often portrayed in children that we lose as we grow up.
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Post by raoh on Jun 14, 2014 20:47:49 GMT -6
Do we kill everybody who is genetically biased towards being a psychopath? Do we start standardizing genetic modification in the womb to stop it then?
I just can't see any other way of humanly handling it. I'm going to sound like a nut myself but people need to distance themselves from the concept of "justice". If you are cursed from birth to be biased towards aggression that itself isn't fair or just. We can go on electrocuting and injecting people that could provide insight into how to make these people functional or detect their problems.
We can't read minds either who knows if the girl or your brother carry anything on their consciousness. I'll admit that in elementary school I was bullied as well as being a bully to others. Middle school all my friends would antagonize one other friend in our circle not knowing the potential harm we could have been doing to her.
I regret my actions for the potential harm I could have caused and I remember all the incidents vividly and shoulder them as burdens. Maybe the anti-social regret for more selfish reasons but hell, they're still people with consciousnesses right?
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Post by SellennaeAlara on Jun 14, 2014 20:55:06 GMT -6
Many traits are learned behavior for how a person choses to act and behaive.
My brother choses to see himself as a 'victem' and in the right even when everyone around him goes o.O
boarderline which he is; is one of the only mental disorders that can be corrected at any stage.
And I thought I said abused me; I am the girl he abused, mentaly, emotonally and pysicaly.
He still tries to mentaly and emotionally; he will still pysically get in my face screamong bullying me and back me into a wall.
But he now knows if he.touches me I will call the cops. I will tell.
Something I did.not do until I was 18.
But if he chose to grow as person; he could change.
I was turning my self into a borderline; I got, asked for and got counciling because of it.
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Post by Midnattblod on Jun 14, 2014 23:13:19 GMT -6
raoh, I understand full well that we shouldn't condemn kids so easily because they ARE impressionable but for them to drag a friend into the wodds and commence to stabbing her 19 times is just a bit too much. according to my mom in Germany they probably wouldn't be given a super long sentence if even a trial because they're not 14, which I think she said is the age where they can be tried as adults. I just don't think this situation is in any way due to these girls being impressionable. I don't know the whole story cause I really don't care to watch the local news except for the weather but to me I think if these girls get the full time they just wasted their lives over an internet meme. this isn't the only incident either. it's gotten so bad that they have to label it fiction to try preventing stuff like this.
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